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Freed from bondage, Alive in Christ!

Journal Entry: Mon Nov 3, 2014, 6:55 AM


Jesus found me and loves me!

I wanted to share my testimony about how Jesus freed me from the deception of lesbianism from Satan and how Jesus saved me and the truth He has shown me and to share in love with others.  I wanted to write about my amazing experiences and my love for our living Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ!  :iconbigheartplz:

I have always believed in God since I can remember and grew up in Church and went to Sunday School and vacation Bible school and always felt at home.  Then when I was a teenager, I just stopped going to Church but never stopped believing in God.  I went to Church very rarely since and then over ten or so years, I had an awakening. I was doing all kinds of things against God and a lot of the things I knew were wrong but I was in rebellion.

The Lord allowed me to see what I would be facing if I didn't turn to Him. He allowed me to see a demon and that hell is a real place and that I would be there if I didn't stop what I was doing. I didn't realize what I was doing as far as needing to accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior and stop doing what I was doing. I knew things I did was wrong but I didn't know the extent of what my sin was doing. I didn't realize that I was breaking God's heart. I turned right to Jesus and proclaimed Jesus as my Lord and Savior. I went back to the church I grew up in and got down on my knees and cried out to Jesus and prayed and He was my Lord and Savior.

So Jesus was my Lord for about ten years but I still was missing something. As the years went by, I was slowly doing things against God because I never completely surrendered my will to Jesus. Even though my sin wasn't to the same extent, it was all equal in God's eyes. I also felt depressed for so long because of my ex-boyfriend leaving me back in 2002.  Then in 2011, I felt like I had nothing left to live for when my grandmother passed away.  I prayed to Jesus that I just want Him to bring me home as well because I didn't belong here.  I lost my grandmother who was a second mother to me and like a best friend.

I just felt so lost and as time went on from when I first turned to Jesus, until September 2014, I got caught up in all kinds of sins, I didn't realize again, about complete surrender to The Lord. Mostly sexual sins I was doing. I didn't realize again, that I was breaking God's heart. And I also didn't realize that I was losing my salvation.

And then an amazing thing happened, a miracle happened. I was at the gym in September 2014, and while on the treadmill, The Lord put on my heart to live for Him. An incredible feeling. The Lord speaking to me in my spirit. Then I prayed that I want to live my life for Jesus and that I give Him my whole heart and soul and everything of me.  I wanted Him to lead my life and me not live for myself anymore.  

That day, after leaving the gym, I was at a stop light. There was a truck in front of me. In huge painted letters, read "The way maker" and underneath, "Jesus will make a way." There are no words. Jesus came into my heart. The next day, I saw a license plate that said I'll return for you in an abbreviated way.


Shortly after, one day I was worshiping and praising and I felt His presence come upon me and I'll never forget it. I have also felt the fire and the water. The baptism by fire and the living water. It was so amazing and incredible and I knew at that moment that He loves and forgives me my sins.  I just want to worship and praise Him for eternity and be with Him, The Father and The Holy Spirit in God's Kingdom for eternity. 

It wasn't until I completely surrendered my will to Jesus that I felt the overcoming of the Holy Spirit.

So when I gave my life to Jesus, in September 2014, the sinful desires that were in me, from Satan, were no longer there. Satan put the desires in me, but Jesus took them away.  When I felt the overcoming of the Holy Spirit, I was never feeling so alive and free. And when we have the Holy Spirit, we don’t want to sin at all. I was dead in my sins but now I am alive in Christ.  Here on earth, we will have temptations but I don't want to sin anymore. And I want to share with you this truth that The Lord has shown me and many others to know to share with others. Satan put all kinds of stuff in my mind but Jesus freed me from that bondage. Jesus also showed me this scripture:

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

I was dying spiritually and breaking God's heart but I was washed and cleansed by the blood of Jesus. I care about everyone and want no one to be deceived by the enemy and that's why I'm sharing what I've been through and how Jesus freed me and His truth to share with others in love. I know not everyone will receive or accept but after what I've been through, I can't not share. I pray and share God's truth in love and how He's changed me and freed me from Satan's bondage and saved me.

Before I gave to Jesus, all my sexual immorality was taking me further and further away from God. I also want to share, talk about and inform about one of my biggest sins I was caught up in before Jesus freed me and about how he freed me. Especially now after what the SCOTUS did back in June. And share an amazing testimony from a woman who was caught up in this deception even more than I was, and Jesus lead me to this testimony on YouTube that I included below. And this is not about hating people, this is about hating the sin, which Christ died on the cross to save us all from. And this is something I was caught up in before I gave my life to Jesus.

Romans 6:20-23

Dead to Sin, Alive in Christ 

20 For when you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21 But what fruit were you getting at that time from the things of which you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. 22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit you get leads to sanctification and its end, eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.


I am writing you because I am being greatly led by the Holy Spirit to share this truth in love and I don't want anyone to be deceived. Satan put lesbianism in my mind for over the course of years. And it was taking me further and further away from God. But when I gave my life to Jesus, I was freed from Satan's bondage.  I was caught up in all this stuff and I realized recently that to not share God's truth (after what happened to me) in a loving way and let people just go on and do their own thing thinking it's okay is being hateful and basically saying to people that you don't care if they're separated from God for eternity.
There's a right way and wrong way to go about things.
It's wrong to hold up signs that God hates gays or to completely disown a family member. God loves us all so much but He hates sin and we also are to hate sin. I was loving my sin but I was also breaking God's heart. God is leading me and everyone who is truly following Him, to share the truth in a loving way and pray for the people to come to Jesus. We don't support or celebrate sin but pray for the people to come to Jesus.
This horrible law by SCOTUS this past June is an attack by Satan on God's plan.
Romans 1 in addition to other places in God's Word shares that God has given people over to their sins. We have turned our backs on Him as a nation and world and He has given people over to their sin. It's all in God's Word, The Holy Bible. I want no one to be deceived. That's what Satan does. He puts whatever he can into people's minds to keep us away from God. He wants to drag us down to where he is.


I am praying for everyone. Our living God, our living Lord and Savior, Jesus, our Heavenly Father, is holy and He does NOT make anyone gay or lesbian or transgender or bi.
When you read all of God's Word, The Holy Bible and are filled with The Holy Spirit, God makes it very clear that He doesn't make anyone that way. Satan is the true enemy of our souls and doesn't want us to be with Jesus and he knows only Jesus saves and he lies and deceives and puts confusion and perversions in people's minds. I was included but Jesus freed me from Satan's bondage.
Satan put in my mind that deception he does with thousands and thousands of people, to be with the same sex but The Lord freed me and showed me the truth. If I were to be in unrepentant sexual immorality which includes homosexuality, then I would not spend eternity with Jesus because our bodies are supposed to be temples for The Holy Spirit. Light and dark cannot live in us at the same time. A person cannot be LGBT and a true follower of Jesus at the same time. Don't be deceived by Satan (who also makes people believe in evolution to keep people away from God) which is what the devil wants. Jesus will free you from Satan's bondage if you let Him, like He did for me.
Please watch the video below and other videos on my page from this woman who was a gay activist and another follower of Jesus who shares how Jesus freed him and how Jesus freed her just like He freed me.


Please seek Jesus and He will free you like He freed me.  This whole LGBT lifestyle is not from God, it's from Satan.  We need to share the truth in a loving way and pray for these people to be free of Satan’s bondage.  And the most loving thing we can do is share the truth in a loving way and pray for people.  Not encourage sin but encourage these people to come out of this destructive lifestyle.  Because you can't love both the person and their sin at the same time.  I care about people and want no one to be deceived by the enemy.  Satan is attacking God's plan by putting all this stuff in people's minds.  Satan attacked God's plan by having prayer taken out of school.  Satan attacked God's plan by having abortion legal.  Satan attacked God's plan back on June 2015 with the same sex marriage thing.  When we turn our backs on God, we are letting Satan in.  This is the truth that is the reality we need to acknowledge.

So no longer am I being led by man or my fleshly desires (even though here on earth, we will be tempted), I am being led by God, through the Holy Spirit and I share this with you so you might also be free in Christ.  And when we have the Holy Spirit in us, no sin will we feel comfortable supporting because God doesn't support any sin.


The truth is we are all in a fallen world, all broken and born with a sinful nature, all in a spiritual battle, and all in need of Jesus who is the only one who can free us from Satan's bondage. This is why it's so very important to stay very close to Jesus and be in His Word. No matter what sin Satan has us trapped in, whether drunkenness, theft, homosexuality, lesbianism, adultry, pornography, drugs, or any other sin, we have a Lord and Savior, Jesus, who will break those chains when we turn to Him. We need to proclaim Jesus' freeing power whenever someone is struggling with something and pray for them. Jesus freed me from Satan's bondage and He will do the same for anyone and everyone who will let Him.
When we completely surrender our will to The Lord's and want to truly follow Him, the Holy Spirit comes in and lives in us and helps us to be more and more like Christ. We are  being hateful when we encourage ANY sin instead of praying for the people.  When Jesus was on that cross, He said Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.  So we also pray because chains from Satan need to be broken.  Satan has so many people trapped in bondage of pornography,  drugs, homosexuality, lesbianism as he did with me, alcoholism and any other sin.  Jesus will free us when we turn to Him and let Him free us.




God loves us all but He hates sin. He calls us to love everyone as a person but hate their sin. We can't both love someone and love their sin at the same time. We are to pray for them and share the truth in love. We are all sinners and the best thing and most loving thing we can do is pray for the people.

◄ Romans 5:8 ►
But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Jesus didn't die on the cross for us to keep sinning. He died on the cross to SAVE us from our sin. Jesus shows this other scripture:

1 Corinthians 6:9-11
Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

********And such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God.**********


Notice the starred part. I was more than one of those but I was washed and cleansed by the blood of Christ. That's why we are to pray and not support sin. We can't be made new in Christ until we come to Him with a repentant heart. And there was a time I was loving my sin but I was breaking God's heart. Now that I surrendered my will to Jesus, I am being led by the Holy Spirit to pray for people and share the truth in love. God wants us to come to Him as we are but He's not going to keep us where we are. We will become more and more like Christ. But we have to be willing to let Him.

If we all opened our hearts and seek Him with our whole heart, he will come.  He will come.  He wants us all to be with Him.  He loves us.I just wanted to share this and I wanted to share these couple scriptures:

Matthew 7:7
Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.…

Psalm 37:4
Trust in the LORD and do good; Dwell in the land and cultivate faithfulness.  Delight yourself in the LORD; And He will give you the desires of your heart.  Commit your way to the LORD, Trust also in Him, and He will do it.…

It's so amazing how your life will change when you start living your life for Jesus.  All the time you hear about people's lives changing when they turn to God and people having these experiences like feeling His presence or seeing Jesus or an angel or Heaven.  It's not just a coincidence.  He comes to those who are really thirsty for Him and want the love, peace and righteousness that He is.  Jesus, God The Father and The Holy Spirit are love itself, peace itself and righteousness itself.  He wants us to be with Him in His kingdom for eternity.  We just need to believe in Him and open our hearts and put everything in His hands.

I surrender everything to Him and I never have felt so free and alive.  Now that He is leading my life and I am no longer living for myself, it's so amazing and I just want to be with Him.  I realize I do have a purpose in my life and everything good is because of Jesus.  He knows every single thing about me and I am learning more and more about Him by reading The Bible.  He is the true friend anyone can ever have.  I am so happy to have Jesus as my Lord and as my Savior.  He loves me and died on the cross for me.  He died on the cross for all of us because He loves us all so much.  I can never give enough thanks and praise and worship to Him for what He did for me, for us.  He saved my life and I live my life for Him and I just want to be there with the saints and angels in Heaven praising, worshiping and singing to Him for eternity.  There are no words for how much I love Him and how grateful I am to Him.

I have cried tears of joy for Him loving me and being with me and I truly can never have a better best friend.  Jesus is my true best friend.  I love Him above all, He is above all.  I love you so much, more than anything, Jesus! You are the reason I am here and I am nothing without you!  :heart:

I have all this love and it's Jesus, our Lord and Savior that I give it all to!
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dawnflower8 Featured By Owner May 1, 2017  Student General Artist
So you think that Satan wants people to fall in love with people of the same gender. What. Why would SATAN, who is all about hate, want anyone to fall in love with anyone? 
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PrincessMagical Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Jesus can free us from anything, including the lgbt lifestyle! :)
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dawnflower8 Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2017  Student General Artist
I knew for a fact you wouldn't give me an actual response to my question. Christian homophobes never can.
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GengarPunk95 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
You are extramly brainwashed
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PrincessMagical Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Jesus can free us from anything, including the lgbt lifestyle! :)
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GengarPunk95 Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
LGBT is not a lifestyle
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Dissonant-Wasteland Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
:stare:

There's nothing wrong with being gay, bi or lesbian. :facepalm:
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PrincessMagical Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Jesus can free us from anything, including the lgbt lifestyle! :)
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Dissonant-Wasteland Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
Don't you start spouting that Jesus crap at me.

I ain't interested, and if being in the LGBT community means going to Hell, then holy SHIT, I'm stoked to meet my boy, Satan!
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AbstractHolly Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You poor woman. 
Only people filled with self hatred would do this so extremely to themselves.

You don't have to change for anybody. It's a new age. Be yourself, and be proud to be yourself : )

Being LGBT certainly isn't an illness, and you have as much chance as "curing" it as you have "curing" your devotion to God! :'D
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PrincessMagical Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Jesus can free us from anything, including the lgbt lifestyle! :)
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AbstractHolly Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Never underestimate the power of denial." - Ricky Fitts, American Beauty
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resMENSA Featured By Owner Edited Oct 30, 2016   General Artist
ehm, you do  know, I hope, that religious belief is considered as obsessive-compulsive disorder by some ppl.?   

The "Holy Bible" is not written by god, nor by his prophet Jesus. But by later fans...
to believe in two entities, playing with our universe because of some stories written by some old greeks... is quite nutty IMO, sry!

Please give Christianity it´s dignity back - Stop telling, that it´s a nutty club of "fairy-fans"  - 
It is not - but a great idea about how to treat other people! Such as slaves, whores, tollkeepers and all others at the edge of society!

That´s discrediting, what you are doing IMO
Christian belief is not about segregation - is not about the "perfect" way of life. Stop telling this nonsense, pls.
"God" (with big G) and "Satan", please!! That´s just embarrasing!! to believe in some action-figures...
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PrincessMagical Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Jesus can free us from anything, including the lgbt lifestyle! :)
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Evometheus6082 Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2016  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I so want to leave links to this beautiful journal on LGBT group pages no matter what they may call me 
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PrincessMagical Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
People need to hear the truth even if they don't receive it. :)
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Ryuuseinow Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2016  Student Digital Artist
Please don't reproduce and keep your hate propaganda away from them.
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PrincessMagical Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's not hate to share how to be free in the Lord Jesus Christ! :)
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Ryuuseinow Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2017  Student Digital Artist
Sure because telling queerfolk that they are sinful and need to submit to your agenda is totally not hateful
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BloodRedFullMoon Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know it's taken me a while, and I can't reply to your comment to one of mine directly because the deviation owner has blocked me for some reason, but since you linked this journal in your post, I might as well reply here ...
(original post: comments.deviantart.com/1/3801… )

Listen here.

Nobody "wants me to believe" anything. Neither your Satan nor anyone else. Except for me.

I do not need to be "washed away and cleansed" either, I am quite clean, thankyouverymuch. Taking a shower really helps.

Speak for yourself, I certainly am no "sinner". "Sin" is a ridiculous concept. I cannot commit a crime against a god if that god doesn't even exist, and besides,
most of the things that are considered "sins" by christians are perfectly fine and wouldn't raise any eyebrows if they weren't suppsedly "against gawd".

I am not in "Satan's bondage". Nor any bondage, actually. The only kind of bondage I like is the BDSM kind, and there it's usually me tying the ropes if you know what I mean.

I neither want nor accept your jesus, nor your god, nor your hateful, spiteful, bigoted worldview. Go die, that's all you really want in this life anyway, is it not?
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PrincessMagical Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Jesus can free us from anything, including the lgbt lifestyle! :)
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BloodRedFullMoon Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There is no jesus, and there is nothing wrong with choosing a lifestyle that your religion doesn't like. 

Nothing at all.
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Dinoeater345 Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2016   General Artist
disagree with this statement: that hell is a real place and that I would be there if I didn't stop what I was doing.

hell does not exist the bible says satan and his followers will be thrown lake of fire and die, hell is just a mistranslation and the concept of it is based on pagan religions.

the bible says: "Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?" Ezekial 18:23
imagine people burning for eternity, and that verse also gives us a hint of the consequence of sin because the punishment of sin is death, not burning for eternity.

just to help you understand the scriptures better ^-^
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PrincessMagical Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hell IS a real place. Don't be deceived by Satan. Jesus came here to save us from eternal torment.
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Dinoeater345 Featured By Owner Edited Sep 30, 2016   General Artist
the bible says otherwise it clearly tells us what the punishment of sin is.

Romans 6:23 -" For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Romans 5:12 "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"

it is clear that the punishment for sin is death.

Matthew 25:46 - "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."

this is saying that we will be dead forever aka the punishment will be everlasting.

the bible also tells us that after we are dead our soul doesn't float away from our bodies to go to either heaven or hell:

Ecclesiates 9:5
"For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun."

the dead are dead they have no knowledge no feelings, nothing, their soul doesn't go anywhere. but it is when jesus comes when he will resurrect those who follow him and give them eternal life.

the doctrine of hell came up with the catholic church, in order to 1.) rule people by fear and 2.) in an attempt to mix paganism with christianity because this originates from greek mythology of the underworld, which was passed on to the romans which catholic church later then implemented it into their theology.

there has been other similar things like this:

christmas: december 25 could not jesus's birthday because during that time the shepherds had their sheep out so it had to be at least fall because if it was winter they wouldn't leave their sheep out.  
actually december 25 is the birthday of many pagan gods if you want to know more I found an article on the internet that explains it more: unexplainedmysteriesoftheworld…

idols: the catholic church has many graven images which people bow down to. but the ten commandments had condemed this as a sin, so they changed their ten commandments:
polination.files.wordpress.com…
you don't beleive? here further proof straight from the catechism itself:
www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css…

sabbath: they changed the sabbath into sunday, which is the day pagans had used to worship the sun so constantine made sunday the day of worship.
in
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constant…
it says:
"In 321, he legislated that the venerable day of the sun should be a day of rest for all citizens.[221] In the year 323, he issued a decree banning Christians from participating in state sacrifices[222] Furthermore, Constantine's coinage continued to carry the symbols of the sun. After the pagan gods had disappeared from his coinage, Christian symbols appeared as Constantine's attributes: the chi rho between his hands or on his labarum,[223] as well on the coin itself.[224]"

you can see you can see paganism in nearly all of catholic artwork, nearly every saint and jesus has a halo around their head representing the sun.

the bible does not deceive. nor can it contradict itself, either all the verses which prove the doctrine of hell wrong, are incorrect or the translators were the ones who were mistaken for their beleifs.
 
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Skyhornet Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
So basically if you disagree with Christianity you are being deceived by Satan? Now that is totally delusional. 
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Dinoeater345 Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2016   General Artist
well actually I am christian myself and she knew that I am christan. I just disagree with the doctrine of hell.

and the reason she says that is because the bible talks about a "war" between god and satan. and he will try whatever he can in order to keep humanity from listening to god's truth. whether it be directly or indirectly through other people.

although in the end it's up the person who decides what he does. satan cannot force people to beleive what they do. He is more like a drug dealer, he puts the temptation in front of you and makes it sound like you will have a wonderful experiance, if you say no then you are fine, but if you decide to take it, you'll end up addicted and coming back for more and more until you either die or get treated. 

although you probably don't beleive any of that, but hey that's your decision.
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Skyhornet Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
That's ridiculous. So basically it's just a fear tactic to be loyal to the religion. Since there is no evidence of hell, or Satan, but no evidence that it is not true, a fool would fear due to the fear of the unknown to become more and more loyal to their religion. 

Don't you get it? Satan is a tool used to scare you to loyalty to your religion. Why else would most Christian denominations have a "if you don't believe, you burn in hell when you die."

It's trying to scare you to submission. A logical tactic for controlled societies/ideologies. Christianity is the fictional haven from hell, where you are controlled, rather than taught. 
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resMENSA Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2016   General Artist
100pt. for correct analysis, my friend.
But you don´t get those poor things cured by facts! Just by even more mysticism IMO
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Skyhornet Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Mysticism? How would that help? Personally I think it is more logical to use facts as a reason for your beliefs. 
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resMENSA Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2016   General Artist
Well, these ppl. are usually not interested in facts. Their arguments base on pure mysticism.
ehm, I amused myself a little i.e. I trolled that girl for my own delight...

I... want to have my own mystical religion! LOL - I never even started to believe in... say, "Father Christmas" for instance.
Or in that more elaborated tale about "God" (with big G) - I do believe in "Quantum Physics", though...
and am definitely NOT able to follow the mathematical explanation. And proof of that theory was delivered just recently.. 

"brain washing" is fact... :)
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Dinoeater345 Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2016   General Artist
-"That's ridiculous. So basically it's just a fear tactic to be loyal to the religion. Since there is no evidence of hell, or Satan, but no evidence that it is not true, a fool would fear due to the fear of the unknown to become more and more loyal to their religion."

well for the religion I am in that is technically incorrect. it is taught that hell is not real, and there is plenty of evidence in the bible to support this. and the fundemental beleifs doesn't have anything to do with staying in the church actually I know a bunch of people who worship god in their homes and not in the church. the only thing that would keep people in the church is the complaints of the old people. XD

let's say you are right and the bible is false. in my beleif when you die it's the same as a non-religious persons', there is nothing. but those who follow god, if they are dead will be resurrected when christ comes, and everyone who has followed god's instructions will be given a new body and go to heaven. so we have no fear of death, and the teaching of there being a heaven does make us strive to be better people, but it doesn't keep us tied to our church since we can basically worship anywhere, whether it be in our homes, while traveling, or in a park.

true christianity is about having the desire to follow god's words, while helping others and teaching others god's words. and going to heaven because you love god not because you fear a punishment.

now as to evidence whether the bible is right or not, while there are archeological findings that support the bible, that is not conclusive evidence. but there is no evidence that what happened in the past according to the bible is true or that god is real, why? because we are to beleive by faith, the jews directly saw the wonders of god and yet they denied him over and over. so now he gives us almost no evidence, except for one catagory: prophecy. I am going to write a journal about a certain prophecy in the bible that foretells a a series of events that happened in the past in exact detail. and that tells us what to expect in the future as well.

if you are curious and/or interested I can send you a message later on when I make it. or you can watch and wait and enjoy my art instead XD. most of the art I make has no direct relevence to the bible, although my art is based on my beleifs, emotions, and/or feelings. But I like to make art anyone can enjoy.

but if you are not interested then I understand. It's your decision after all.
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Skyhornet Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Ok... you didn't need to write that much... :\

Even though your definition of Christianity doesn't involve a Hell, it does involve a Heaven. It is the opposite of a fear tactic. It is a reward tactic. Where you are loyal to Christianity because it makes you believe that you will die and go to heaven. 

Faith isn't evidence... it's just hope. The reason there are archaeological findings, doesn't prove the bible. Because the bible does have HISTORICAL accounts. Because you know... people where alive back then, history exists. But the fictional parts have zero historical accounts. Except for Jesus, which historians claimed there was no evidence that he was ever holy or magical, like it says in the Bible. There is no evidence. 

Besides, If God appeared many times before, and many magical things happened, like satan coming to Earth, angels coming... why don't they appear now? Because the bible is a myth story, that exaggerates things. 

Ah! The prophecies. The prophecies are ALL vague. And are proven true by mere luck, or by interpretation.

As for your art. It's good and keep it up. It's not my cup of tea, but it has a lot of quality. 
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Dinoeater345 Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2016   General Artist
-"Ok... you didn't need to write that much... :\"

sorry I am terrible when it comes to straightfoward explanations. cause when I have a discussion I like to make sure I do my best to explain as much as I can so there are no misunderstandings. although sometimes it has the exact opposite effect cause apparantly it's too much for most people in this day in age to read. and then they skip some things. T-T

-"Faith isn't evidence... it's just hope."

I never said it was evidence. I just said that god prefers people who have faith in him than people who follow him because they actually see his works. because if a person follows him without having definite proof that he is real in a world that is full of lies and chaos, how much more so would they follow him after he reveals himself to them.

-" The reason there are archaeological findings, doesn't prove the bible."

I said that already: "while there are archeological findings that support the bible, that is [not] conclusive evidence."

-"Besides, If God appeared many times before, and many magical things happened, like satan coming to Earth, angels coming... why don't they appear now? Because the bible is a myth story, that exaggerates things."

well actually there has rarely ever been direct contact with most people, especially with satan and his fallen angels. my guess is god created us in something like a seperate dimension to keep humanity from having direct communication with satan and his angels.

and while a normal human who lives life just doing what he does doesn't usually experiance anything. there are people who have experiances whether it be good or bad.
for example a few pages I found on the internet:

amasci.com/weird/unusual/unexp…
www.healthboards.com/boards/sl…
www.reddit.com/r/Paranormal/co…
answers.yahoo.com/question/ind…

while I know there is a possibility of some people lying (it is the internet after all) or there "being some other explanation". but I also think there are people who are speaking the truth of their experiance and have probably tried to explain everything that has happened to them to find some answer but haven't.

I don't beleive in ghosts though. The bible says that those things, which are necromany (communicating with the dead), are actually fallen angels who imitate those people who have died.
although I don't really like making a habit of searching up things like this, as it makes me feel uncomfortable.

and then there are people who are into stuff like the new age movement. could there be a reason why all those people beleive these things?

stuff like yoga that are "proven" to have beneficial effects: nccih.nih.gov/health/yoga/intr…
yet there is no scientific evidence as to why this is.
and all these eastern practices like meditation, and acupuncture. people wouldn't be spending money on stuff like this if it didn't show results.

but the bible has an answer to this: when satan touched job, he got sores all around him. so if satan has the ability to cause diseases wouldn't he also have the ability to take them away? and that is why science cannot explain what these people call "chi" because they are the demonic forces at work.

the only reason people like you and me don't experiance these things is because 1.) people usually don't dabble in occult and weird things like that which let demons have more influence over them (aka fallen angels) and 2.) we don't preach the god's words to others (because people who spread the word of god are usually attacked.)


-"Ah! The prophecies. The prophecies are ALL vague. And are proven true by mere luck, or by interpretation."

no this one is neither vague nor can it be mere luck nor can it be subject to anyone's interpretation (if it is read correctly). although this prophecy isn't really popular in most modern day christian beleifs anymore. so you most likely haven't heard it yet.

-"As for your art. It's good and keep it up. It's not my cup of tea, but it has a lot of quality."

I understand not everyone has the same tastes. your art is good as well, a bit of a cartoony but you have your own style and have a good sense of detail. Maybe work on the lines and shading abit.

although I prefer more of an anime-ish style. my art is realistic anime style but I'm still trying to get a hang of a few things.

and thanks for the compliment ^-^ also I'm sorry for making this reply even longer. T-T
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frankier-o Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2016  Student Digital Artist
so we're just--- gonna erase my sexual identity? cool

because yeah i totally chose to be gay because y'know i love being harassed and i love fearing my own family it's a++++
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PrincessMagical Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Everything we do is a choice. We either surrender our will to Jesus and let Him lead our lives or we continue in our sins. But we have a choice and it's because God loves us so much that He calls us to repentance.
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BloodRedFullMoon Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Bullshit.

So the kids who starve every day in africa, they do this by choice?
They're starving because that's what they simply chose to do?

That is an incredibly asinine way of thinking. It makes me sick.
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ValenciasMostWanted Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2016
Or maybe its your choice of not doing anything to help them ; )
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BloodRedFullMoon Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Isn't it a little presumptuous of you to say that?
I mean, you couldn't possibly know whether or not I am doing any such thing.

That aside, so many other people also do things to help. That doesn't change the fact of their continuing starvation.
Makes your comment kind of a non-sequitur, doesn't it?
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ValenciasMostWanted Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2016
Eh.
Upon first impressions you don't seem like the person to barge through the doors of a Feed My Starving Children and start working right then and there. Maybe I'm wrong.

Perhaps, but bringing up starving children in a debate about sexuality is kinda illogical as well if you ask me.
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BloodRedFullMoon Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, maybe you are.

The debate isn't about sexuality, it's about this nonsensical concept you call "sin", as well as free will. And under this aspect it definitely makes sense, because free will is incompatible with your god.
The comment I replied to claims that everything we do is a choice, which is not the least bit true. My example may have been a little drastic, but it really demonstrates that this weird construct of the christian worldview only works if you're someone who lives a relatively comfortable life.
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ValenciasMostWanted Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2016
Or mayhaps I'm not. I can't say til I've known someone for a while.

Here ya go. I don't feel the need to say whats already been said, so have an article. carm.org/if-god-knows-our-free…

And really, if you are so curious about free will, do your own searches, heck, visit a pastor- I'm sure answers will differ but you can draw your own conclusions.

I feel like this is gonna end up like most debates and have us going in circles and changing nobodys mind, so you have fun out in life. I can't say the same for myself, but oh well.
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Dinoeater345 Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2016   General Artist
"so we're just--- gonna erase my sexual identity? cool"

I know right! why would any one want an ID when I can change to whatever I want to, whoever I want to be, when I want to be it!

"because yeah i totally chose to be gay because y'know i love being harassed and i love fearing my own family it's a++++"

masochist? JKJKJKJK I'm sorry I couldn't help it.

-----warning idiot trying to be funny----
----- Ignore everything above-----
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mikesmom37 Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2016  Student General Artist
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PrincessMagical Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
God Bless! :)
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niightowls Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2016
what the fuck.

that's very horrible of you ^^ thanks for totally ripping away my identity, i appreciate it.

www.exposingtruth.com/homosexu…
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PrincessMagical Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Jesus loves you and will free you from any bondage Satan has you trapped in. :)
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niightowls Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2016
hah okay dude, the only thing worse than an imaginary friend is an imaginary enemy c:
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